faq for potential Penn mstp applicants
What does the Penn MD-PhD program look for?
We are looking for candidates who show outstanding potential as future physician-investigators, as demonstrated by:
- Academic excellence - including, but not limited to, strong grades and MCAT scores. Successful applicants in the past few years have had an average GPA of 3.8 and MCAT scores of 36, but the range has been 3.4-4.0 and 30-44.
- Sustained research experience and passion for investigation and medicine.
- Outstanding letters of recommendation, particularly from the faculty with whom you did research.
- Well-articulated goals that are a good match for our program's mission.
How do I apply?
The preliminary application must be submitted via AMCAS by the standard deadlines or through the Early Decision Program. Upon receipt of the completed AMCAS application, eligible applicants will receive an e-mail from Penn which provides access information for our online supplemental application. It does not need to be sent separately to the MD-PhD office. Info on the application process and deadlines, which apply to both MD-PhD and MD applicants, appears at: http://www.med.upenn.edu/admiss/.
When should I apply?
Most applicants apply for the MD-PhD program when initially applying for Medical School via AMCAS. However, some decide to apply to join the MD-PhD program after matriculating as an MD or PhD student. We strongly advise any candidate who is uncertain of his or her career goals to delay applying to the MD-PhD program. We recommend that these individuals spend additional time exploring their career goals before applying, or apply to the appropriate single degree program first.
Does the MD-PhD program accept MD or PhD students from Penn into the combined program?
We welcome the applications of Penn medical and graduate students in their first or second year. Penn medical students applying to join the program in Biomedical Graduate Studies programs will complete our internal application forms. Applicants to the program in other graduate groups may be asked to complete a standard PhD application, in addition to our internal application. Penn graduate students who wish to join the program must apply through AMCAS and complete the MD-PhD supplemental application. (Students must meet the relevant application deadlines in summer/fall at the start of their first or second year. Once application deadlines in the summer/fall of year 2 have passed, MD and PhD students are no longer eligible to apply for the program).
Does Penn accept transfer applicants?
Generally, the School of Medicine does not consider applications for admission with advanced standing. Exceptions are made very, very rarely, and only if we anticipate having space in the clinical courses.
What happens after I submit my application?
Selected candidates will be invited to interview. Our interview visit takes place over a day and a half and consists of opportunities to learn about the program, meet with students, and see Philadelphia, in addition to interviewing individually with 4 to 6 faculty members.
How does the selection process work?
Penn has an integrated admissions process and the MD-PhD program works closely with the MD admissions committee and the graduate groups to make joint decisions about admission. Offers of admission typically go out in March.
Is the GRE required?
All applicants must take the MCAT. Each School/Graduate Program has its own policy regarding whether the GRE is also required. MD-PhD applicants to the Biomedical Graduate Studies graduate groups and the Bioengineering graduate group are not required to take the GRE, because MCAT scores are considered an acceptable alternative. History and Sociology of Science requires the GRE. Health Care Systems (Wharton) requires the GRE or GMAT. Applicants to Anthropology are strongly encouraged to take the GRE.
Are there any special requirements for applicants outside of biomedical science?
As noted above, applicants to graduate groups outside of biomedical science are strongly encouraged to take the GRE, and in some cases this will be required. In addition, for candidates for Anthropology and History and Sociology there is one additional application essay about their interest in the Graduate Group at Penn. Those selected for interview may also be asked for other additional materials
What type of funding do applicants receive?
Offers of admission come with full funding which consists of tuition, health insurance, most fees, and a stipend ($30,500 for 2013-14). This funding support remains in effect for the entire duration of the program, as long as the student remains in good standing. Financial support for these funding packages is derived from the Medical Scientist Training Program grant funded by the National Institute of General Medical Sciences of the NIH, the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, private foundation funds, faculty research grants and other sources.
In some cases, candidates for graduate programs outside of Biomedical Graduate Studies and Bioengineering may receive an offer of admission with a less comprehensive funding package. In extremely rare situations, it is also possible that a candidate to one of the programs above would receive an alternative funding offer.
Are international applicants eligible to apply?
Yes, we do accept applications from candidates who are not U.S. citizens or permanent residents, and these candidates are eligible for consideration for fully funded offers of acceptance. To be considered, candidates must have a minimum of one year of course work in the sciences at a U.S. institution, as described at http://www.med.upenn.edu/admiss/admissions1.html . (An exception to the one year of US course work policy applies for certain Canadian institutions that are similar to US Schools. Please contact the Admissions Office directly if you are at a Canadian institution and have a question about this).
Can I be considered for both the MD-PhD and MD?
No. AMCAS requires applicants to indicate a program choice of MD or MD-PhD, and this is also true for Penn.
What if I am undecided between MD-PhD and MD?
If you are committed to a career as a physician investigator and plan to spend the majority of your time conducting research, you should apply MD-PhD. If you are not sure of your career goals, or do not intend to have a primary research focus, you should apply for the MD program. (If you are undecided, you will have the opportunity to apply to enter the MD-PhD program during the first or second year of medical school if you later decide this is the best path for you).
Is it easier to gain admission through the MD program?
No. Both applicant pools are extremely competitive and have very similar average grade point averages and MCAT scores. There is no strategic advantage to choosing one program over the other, and we strongly encourage applicants to choose a program based on their interests and goals.
Can I change from MD-PhD to MD or MD to MD-PhD part way through the application process?
Applicants are strongly encouraged to carefully consider their choice before designating MD or MD-PhD. However, it is possible to change the program designation up until November 1st. No changes are permitted after November 1st. Applicants who wish to make a change prior to November 1st must make the change through AMCAS, and must also contact the Penn School of Medicine Office of Admissions directly.
Does the Penn MSTP participate in the NIH / MD-PhD Partnership Training Program (aka the NIH GPP program)?
The Penn MSTP does NOT participate the NIH / MD-PhD Partnership Training Program (with one exception, noted below). Students who are currently in the NIH GPP program (track 3) are welcome to apply to Perelman, but should designate MD (rather than MD-PhD) on their applications and will not be considered for funding through the Penn MSTP. It is possible that students in this situation may continue to receive some funding via the MD-PhD Partnership Training Program, and they should consult their Partnership program leaders for information about financial support. (The Penn MSTP participates fully in only one aspect of the Partnership program, and this is limited to our Immunology students in the full time PhD phase of the program. Our Immunology Graduate Group faculty includes a limited number of investigators with labs at NIH. MD-PhD students in Immunology may consider these labs for thesis work).
Do you have a question that wasn’t answered above or in our other Applicant Info pages?
If so, please e-mail Maggie Krall, Director of Administration for the Combined Degree and Physician Scholar Programs at firstname.lastname@example.org, and she’ll be glad to provide additional information.