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Student Portal > Curriculum > FAQ
Module 5 has 11 months of requirements which will help you to select a specialty and acquire the credentials needed to apply for residency.
What are the requirements of Module 5?
What is the timeline for Module 5?
If you are graduating in 2013, the best way to plan Module 5 is to make yourself
worksheets with 16 months starting with January 2012 and ending with April 2013 (the last month in which you can do an elective). You will need to plot the requirements listed above and time to:
What is the residency application timeline?
The early match programs are: ophthalmology, pediatric neurology,
and urology. Match for these programs occurs in late January with the
applications due in late August/early September and interviews in
November and December. The Match for all the other specialties occurs in March. Applications are submitted in September and October with interviews in November, December, and January.
Which specialties require a separate application process for the internship
year?
• Anesthesia: Transitional Year or Medicine Prelim (only needed for some programs)
• Dermatology: Medicine Prelim
• Emergency Medicine: Medicine Prelim (only needed for some programs)
• Neurology: Medicine Prelim
• Ophthalmology: Transitional Year or Medicine Prelim
• Radiology: Transitional Year or Medicine Prelim
• Radiation Oncology: Transitional Year or Medicine Prelim
What is a "sub I/externship" that is required?
A sub I/externship is a course which allows you to demonstrate your ability to manage patients. This requirement can be fulfilled by taking EMR308 (Emergency Medicine), MED400 (Sub-internship in Medicine) or FAM(Sub-Internship in Family Medicine) MED400D (Externship in Medicine), PED300
(Sub-internship in Pediatrics).
A sub I in Medicine (MED400) or in Pediatrics (PED300) is an opportunity to
serve as an intern and is offered at HUP/VAMC/Pennsy/Presby or CHOP. An Externship in Medicine (MED400D) at Pennsylvania Hospital is the opportunity to manage patients while being an addition to the team.
Do any specialties require a particular sub-I/externship?
Pediatrics requires PED300, Medicine (3 year, categorical residency) requires
MED400, and Emergency Medicine requires EMR308A. Students, who are considering specialties which need a transitional or medicine pre-lim year, should consider a medicine externship.
When should I fulfill the SubI requirement?
There is no one right answer and it varies depending on the specialty you are interested in. If you think a career in medicine or pediatrics interests you, then you want to keep in mind that a Unit month is recommended/required and the sub I/externship is a pre-requisite. If you are interested in surgery or a surgical sub-specialty, you may want to do your surgery courses first, followed by your scholarly pursuit, and then your required externship or sub-I.
By luck of the draw or by changing your mind on your career choice, you may end up with a SubI and a Unit month next August and September. Even with this schedule, there will be enough time to obtain letters of recommendation and the grade/comments will be in your transcript and MSPE (Medical Student Performance Evaluation).
When do I register for the sub-I required course and the electives?
Scheduling is done first with your lottery rankings due in early November. Electives scheduling is done in four-month blocks, according to the following:
• in November 2011 for January – April 2012
• in March 2012 for May – August 2012
• in June 2012 for September – December 2012
What are electives and when do I register for them?
You will need 4 months of standard electives as listed in the on-line course catalogue.
These are generally one month long courses offered in all specialty areas at
HUP/VAMC/Presby/Pennsy/CHOP. There are also opportunities to develop clinical experiences with Penn faculty on an individualized basis either in an inpatient or outpatient setting. Electives include consult courses, Unit months, chances to explore dermatology, radiology, radiation oncology, and one-on-one preceptorships in surgery (their equivalent to an externship), etc
Where do I find the rotation dates?
The 2012 schedule is posted on the web at:
http://www.med.upenn.edu/student/2012Schedule.shtml
Please note: MED400 at HUP/VAMC/Pennsy/Presby runs from Sunday to Sunday. MED400, MED400D, and PED300 require a 1.5 day orientation with the following dates:
January 26 - 27
February 23 - 24
April 19 - 20
June 7 - 8
Are there any courses which are not offered all year-long?
A few courses (such as RAD300, some ortho preceptorships, etc) are not offered
in July or August so you may want to request them for February-April with the
alternative being May and June, which are part of the next registration cycle. You can arrange to do electives for two weeks instead of four after the registration process has run.
Where do I go for advice?
Guide to Course Selection can be found by going to http://www.med.upenn.edu/student/courseguide/ You will soon be able to request career counselors in the areas that interest you. Other good sources for advice are upper classmen, faculty, the Registrars Office and the Office of Student Affairs who can answer questions that you may have.
What is Scholarly Pursuit?
Scholarly pursuit can be fulfilled by:
Details can be found on the student homepage under “Mod 5” category at
http://www.med.upenn.edu/student/scholarlystudy/
What are Frontiers Courses?
Frontiers are one- and two-week courses offered in late October/November and
February/early March. These courses focus on up-to-date trends in basic science
and their relationship to clinical medicine. The schedule may change for next
year but details about this year’s courses can be found in VC2000. You will
register for these courses in August 2012.
Are USMLE Step 1 and Step 2 (Clinical Knowledge & Clinical Skills) required and
when should I take them?
You must take these exams but a passing score is not required for graduation.
Since they are required for licensure and are used by some residency programs
for screening purposes, students:
You can register for Step 1 or Step 2 by going to http://examinee.nbme.org/interactive/
Step 1 and Step 2-Clinical Knowledge are administered on computers and can be taken
year-round.
You will register via the website and then call a Prometric Learning
Center to schedule the day and time of your choice.
There will be a class meeting in October to discuss Step 1 studying tips. This meeting will include a panel of upper-classmen.
Clinical Skills Inventory (CSI)
What is the Clinical Skills Inventory and when is it offered?
Clinical Skills Inventory (CSI) is a graduation requirement which must be successfully passed. The summative exam assesses students cognitive and interpersonal/communication skills.The test is graded on a pass/fail basis with scores provided for both components.
Students are eligible to take CSI upon completion of all clerkships. The majority of students will take CSI at least one year before graduation with a small cohort completing this requirement in the same calendar year as graduation.
If a student fails one or both components of the exam, he/she will need to take the test again. Students who take the exam the year before graduation and who fail will be re-tested in early March of the following year. Students who take the exam in the same calendar year as graduation will be scheduled for the exam in early March allowing time for re-enrollment if a passing score is not achieved. Students should leave time in their schedules for special remedial work if the exam is not passed on the second attempt. An individualized plan based on deficiencies will be developed and graduation will be contingent upon performance during remedial assignments.
Like Step 2 CS, CSI lasts a full day, during which you will see 12 SPs, one-on-one, in a clinic setting. You will be required to interview and examine SPs, and write a patient note after each encounter. The exam will be offered on the following dates from 8:30am – 4:00pm:
Detailed information will be provided via email prior to your scheduled exam
date. If you have questions prior to then, feel free to contact Denise LaMarra,
Director of the SP Program, at lamarra@mail.med.upenn.edu, 215-898-3520.
When will I be taking ACLS?
ACLS is a pre-requisite for the medicine and emergency medicine sub-internships with scheduling details to follow later in the fall.
If I want to do a rotation away, when would I do this and how do I apply?
Most students, who choose to do away rotations, do so in the summer and fall of
the last year. The application process is driven by the other medical school and
details can be found on the student homepage under the “Mod 5” category at
http://services.aamc.org/eec/students
If I decide to take an extra year, when and how do I apply?
If you want to do a year-long program and are interested in applying for
funding, start with the Office of Combined Degree and Physician Scholars
Program's website, www.med.upenn.edu/mdresearchopps/research_descriptions.shtml.
Some of the applications are time consuming so you may want to allow extra time
for Step 1 studying, if the due dates are in January or February. You will
probably want to do some electives, your sub I/externship, and USMLE Steps 2 in
2012 before the extra year. You will be considered as an active student during
long as you are spending half of your time on medically related educational activities. The maximum amount of tuition charged is four years which is 8 semesters. During an additional year, you will pay the general fee, technology fee, and other miscellaneous charges in order to maintain your status as a medical student.
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